We now have extra response from Liverpool 0-0 Arsenal. Plus, North London derby, finest worth signing at Spurs, PGMOL high six bias and extra…
Why are some Liverpool followers ‘disgusted’?
30 years. Very long time isn’t it? I used to be 15 thirty years in the past and now I’ve a 15 12 months previous son. Hell of a number of water below the bridge. It’s a lifetime of dashed hopes, light glories, fallen messiahs and most significantly and relevantly right here, *zero* league titles.
Alongside comes an inspirational and transformative German saviour who received us the Champions League after which the extraordinarily elusive league title. All whereas taking part in essentially the most extraordinary enticing to look at soccer I’ve ever seen from us.
He might retire *tomorrow* and be a legend of this membership till the tip of time. But after an admittedly quite irritating goalless draw within the semi finals of the League Cup, there are people who find themselves disgusted – disgusted I say! – with the state of the membership and wish to find out about succession planning.
Fast query, are you completely off your heads? You assume there’s higher than Jurgen on the market? Ask Manchester United if there’s! There may be one, depend them, one supervisor who’s presumably higher and that’s Pep. Who’s nonetheless received much less Champions Leagues than Jurgen within the final decade.
The one approach from Jurgen is down, and massively down at that. So preserve the kneejerk insane scorching takes to your self and attempt to discover that that is the most effective it’s really been for us in three a long time. And it’s bloody good.
I’m disgusted at your disgust sir.
James , Liverpool
‘Puzzled’ by TAA positioning
I’ll open with a congratulations to Arsenal for a spirited show final night time at Anfield – deserving of a draw I felt and clearly displaying that they’re taking part in for his or her supervisor.
The truth that Liverpool didn’t attempt to stretch the sport extra by making an attempt to get around the again left me scratching my head considerably and seeing TAA taking part in successfully as a central midfielder at instances within the second half puzzled me – certainly you’d need the particular person with the most effective supply within the workforce to have as a lot area as doable to supply some high quality into the field.
Not having Thiago accessible didn’t assist issues – partially purchased to be the midfielder who can unlock deep block defences.
At the very least it must be a greater recreation subsequent week as Arsenal will probably be extra progressive which is able to give Liverpool more room to play.
Can somebody clarify to me why Newcastle haven’t bid for Nat Phillips but .. I simply don’t get it.
They’ve a comparatively low-cost English possibility who has premier league expertise the place he was successfully the ‘principal man’ of the defence.
Ought to Newcastle not handle to keep away from relegation he strikes me as a participant that will seemingly keep by means of a one season championship marketing campaign to get again up.
Cheeky bid for Phil Jones too ? … admittedly extra ‘quick time period’ fixes for the barcodes as they plot a path to world domination through an open chequebook, however who’re they kidding in the event that they really feel they’ll appeal to the kind of expertise who’re more likely to count on to be taking part in in Europe.
Lower your coat based on your material.
For Liverpool I might be actually shocked if we see anybody arrive on this window, so all eyes level in the direction of the summer season.
Followers must remind themselves that LFC is just not the most important sports activities entity below the FSG umbrella and that when large brother will get a chilly (Purple Sox), little brother will really feel the impact too.
Till the US baseball market settles again into earlier cash making mode it’s uncertain that severe cash will filter its approach by means of to the north west of England.
It tends to be the case that little brother eats solely after large brother has had his fill.
Being glass half full for a second, ought to the monies materialise for a £100m+ summer season web spend I sincerely hope Edwards (as a parting reward) is lining up Bellingham and Raphinha .. the two gamers I most want to see be part of.
A lot of paper discuss curiosity in Bowen however I’m at the moment struggling to see that as an incredible transfer (however then once more I scratched my head on the value for Mane on the time …).
I feel we additionally must recognise that the home-grown participant quota is one thing that will form the switch method.
…. however I say one factor to the gamers who Liverpool could also be fascinated about – have a look at Klopp’s observe document in bettering gamers after they’ve arrived (the polar reverse of Man U over current years) … be the most effective variations of your self .. come to sunny Liverpool.
Will shut with a random assertion.
Simply needed to spotlight what an incredible job I feel Patrick Vieira is doing at Palace.
To lose over a dozen of your inherited squad, usher in recent faces and get them taking part in good soccer with a little bit of spine has been actually spectacular to see.
It could sound barely silly to some however he’s within the dialogue for supervisor of the season for me as issues stand for the best way he has navigated by means of the uneven waters when others might have capsized.
I want him effectively.
Take care all,
Liverpool guilty for his or her lack of tempo…
One factor that struck me final night time that actually didn’t assist Liverpool was that, as a result of Arsenal taking part in *so* deep, the 2 centre backs had been taking part in on the sting of the ultimate third. They’d primarily change into “inventive” midfielders with not one of the “inventive”.
Fabinho was on the sting of the field doing nothing defensive and because of this no ahead gamers had any area to function or discover area.
I don’t know tips on how to coach a workforce, however certainly in case your central defenders are going to play that far up the pitch, in fact your creativity and motion will undergo. The best way Liverpool play with tempo and dynamism of the entrance 3, in case you compress play like that you simply’re snubbing out your individual area. Added to that, if Arsenal break with velocity there’s two thirds of the pitch that they should cowl, it simply appeared counter intuitive and confirmed lack of self-discipline.
It was snug for Arsenal, but it surely feels prefer it was as a lot all the way down to Liverpool lowering the scale of the pitch as the rest.
Honest play to Arsenal although, they did precisely what they needed to do and did it completely.
Give Salah no matter he desires…
So after final nights recreation, have we agreed to simply give Mo no matter he has requested for?
I cant imagine we havent already, I might like to know what he has requested for and what they (FGS) assume they’ve to realize by not giving him precisely what he asks for will bells on and a cherry!
Mo desires to signal da ting… FFS whats the matter with you!
Give ‘im da ting… init!
Al LFC (Possibly if he has requested for Haaland or Mbappe to affix him its not fairly so simple)
I’d identical to to get one gripe off my shoulders if I could and it was triggered by Paul, Chester. You see it rather a lot on right here when a person thinks they’ll converse for an entire fan base. “We LFC followers don’t care in regards to the Milk Cup” That’s your opinion of you don’t look after the League Cup however don’t have the conceitedness that your opinion is matched by a complete fan base. I for one love the league cup. I used to be 6 years previous in April 95 once I first went to Wembley for the 2-0 win over Bolton and the reminiscences I cherish of that day will endlessly maintain a particular place in my coronary heart, not simply due to the win however the reality it’s one of many final joyful reminiscences I’ve with my grandad earlier than he was cruelly taken away lower than 2 years later.
The league cup win v Birmingham was the beginning of profitable 3 trophies in 01. Beating United in 03 was unreal. Shedding to Metropolis in 16 was shit. I would like us to go to Wembley, I would like us to win trophies, each trophy we have now accessible. So when conceited followers such as you Paul say issues like that it will get on my tits a bit. In case you don’t care in regards to the league cup that’s your prerogative, however ask your self it’s trying seemingly in the intervening time we’re going to end 2nd or third this season, would you not take a trophy and a time out at Wembley to go along with that and perhaps some reminiscences to final a life time. I do know I might.
Greatest worth signing
Following on from document switch development, and seeing how few might be deemed a hit, particularly on the daft finish of the listing, I used to be curious what groups finest worth transfers have been.
Gareth Bale – an apparent one to kick off. Purchased for £5m – two seasons of frankly silly soccer – and a hefty revenue off the again.
Luka Modric – £16m isn’t low-cost however what he delivered to Spurs was one thing few had seen earlier than, and fewer have seen since. A category participant, and a hefty revenue.
Dele: Difficult one this however for 3 seasons he was sensational. Price £5m which is able to, if bought, nonetheless be upgraded on. Nonetheless gutted his plummet has been so dramatic.
Kyle Walker: Being bought for £50m alone would make him high 5 however, once more, for 2 season and regardless of apparent flaws, he was integral to a swashbuckling Spurs workforce.
Toby and Jan for a mixed £22.5m stays an distinctive piece of enterprise. The 2 had been the most effective mixture Spurs have had in my forty years supporting the membership. Once they began to wane it was no coincidence that Spurs kind turned compromised past restore.
Not a nasty handful of gamers. Pity we’re so abysmal at making ‘large cash’ signings.
Unintended penalties of 5 subs…
Though Arsenal didn’t benefit from this (presumably as a result of their bench was fairly weak), Xhaka’s early sending off highlighted an excellent argument for not completely growing the variety of subs allowed to 5. Given the tactical self-discipline lately, in lots of video games (particularly between evenly matched groups) the benefit of an additional man doesn’t actually change into obvious till the tip of the sport, when the 10-man workforce are fatigued, so the power to interchange greater than half the outfield gamers can be fairly impactful. Like the general argument about 5 subs, it might additionally are inclined to favour the large groups with stronger benches (though perhaps they’re much less more likely to have gamers despatched off).
Personally I lean in the direction of permitting 5 subs to cut back accidents and many others, but it surely appears a bit unjust to provide a bonus to a workforce that’s had a participant despatched off, to not point out the actual fact it most likely results in extra uninteresting video games like final night time’s second half. Possibly the answer can be lowering the subs allowed in case you get despatched off for denying a goalscoring alternative or violent conduct.
North London derby…
So with the NLD developing on Sunday, one query on my thoughts is… will it occur?
Arsenal appear to have a number of absences and accidents, and wouldn’t shock me to see them put a request to the FA to cancel. That being mentioned, Xhaka getting despatched off, and loaning out two gamers in Janaury earlier than reinforcements, it’s successfully self-inflicted.
Nevertheless, the FA have now set a precedent that even with out Covid they’ll transfer video games to accomodate which is a bit farcical actually. Fascinating to see the way it performs out.
PGMOL high six bias
The article you posted displaying not one of the high Refs are supporters of the large 6 golf equipment misses the purpose considerably, Simply because they’ve declared they don’t help sure golf equipment doesn’t make it true, it’s about as strong as a Boris Johnson speech, however in any case, who they help is just not actually the problem. It’s about whether or not they’re topic to form of affect concerning sure golf equipment.
Affect could also be the results of inner considerations, maybe sub-conscious, maybe not, about being held accountable by excessive profile gamers, managers and pundits for any controversial selections that will have an effect on necessary trophy pursuits. Whereas presumably comprehensible to an extent, it nonetheless smacks of weak spot, and makes them unfit to referee.
Or, if we’re being cynical (or real looking?), might or not it’s the outcome exterior stress from vested pursuits to assist guarantee the large boys stay related as typically as doable come trophy time?
If that sounds far fetched, think about the context. First, lets have a look at the house web page of F365. The majority of the hyperlinks are large 6 focussed, particularly Manchester United -14th Jan for instance, 7 out of 30 hyperlinks for United or 23.3%, and 4 of these particularly on Ronaldo (13.3%) – and that’s fairly a slack day for Utd hyperlinks. Why is that this? Properly clearly you rely on promoting income which relies on views and clicks, and which means interesting to the widest accessible reader base. Which actually means making it significant to plastic supporters within the far off corners of the world who invariably connect themselves to Manchester United or one other one of many large 6. You could have official industrial causes for doing this and there aren’t any authorized or different restrictions on you taking this method.
However don’t the Soccer authorities have related industrial “motivations”, when the PL, the Champions League, even the FA Cup are all merchandise price billions in TV cash, sponsorship and Promoting income? The organisers clearly wish to maximise the enchantment to maximise the income. Maximising enchantment for the PL and the FA means preserving the large 6 related.
As much as not too long ago it has largely been self-regulating as a result of distinction in wealth between these with common Champions League revenue and/or mega-rich house owners. With the rise in PL TV cash per membership, the hole has narrowed and the normal high finish golf equipment are actually below risk from the likes of West Ham, Leicester and shortly doubtlessly Newcastle. Even the FFP trick supposed to forestall newly-minted golf equipment catching up with these already financially doped is beginning to unravel.
The massive 6 nonetheless hand out common drubbings however there are extra video games the place they’re struggling to get the sting they want. Video games are selected small margins, and too typically refereeing selections that require some “interpretation” of the legal guidelines seem like stepping into favour of sure golf equipment after they want it most. Traditional instance, armpit = handball in opposition to Wolves, that means Manchester Metropolis get the win. On the identical day that Liverpool are awarded a doubtful penalty to defeat Villa 1-0 whereas Villa are denied an arguably extra apparent shout. And on the identical day Man Utd. are being outplayed by Norwich however a hand on Ronaldo’s ought to is deemed enough for him to be felled like a tree and acquire a decisive penalty.
After all this might all simply be coincidence. However isn’t it taking place just a bit too typically for that to be the case? With a lot at stake would it not actually be past the powers that be to use a little bit “stress” right here and there to PGMOL to ask their members to show a blind eye to sure issues, or to be extra lenient of their “interpretation” of the foundations? It’s not as if there isn’t any proof of Refs making use of the foundations “idiosyncratically” – For instance some refs have admitted they had been “suggested” to keep away from issuing crimson playing cards within the first couple of minutes so as to not “smash the present”.
Or are we to imagine that Soccer is a uncommon beacon of advantage in an in any other case darkish World the place corruption and undue affect is the enterprise norm? Personally I can’t consider every other multi-billion greenback enterprise the place underhand shenanigans and jiggery-pokery don’t exert a major affect. We solely have to have a look at numerous betting scandals, bribed referees, and Sepp Blatter to see that soccer generally is already removed from an exception.
I write this as a Villa fan who has misplaced depend of selections in opposition to us that defy perception even within the pre VAR days, however who’s now each resigned to not having a degree taking part in area when up in opposition to sure golf equipment however incredulous at how blatant the bias seems generally. VAR is just exaggerating it, quite than resolving it, as I had hoped it might. Towards Man Utd. three minutes and thirty-six seconds to identify a supposedly “clear and apparent” infringement. In case you look arduous sufficient you’ll most likely at all times discover one thing on any aim, however why the forensic examination on this event solely? How arduous did they have a look at United’s aim? Not a look. The acid take a look at is “are you able to think about that being given on the different finish?” Not an opportunity in hell. There are lots of different examples, together with that unimaginable non-offside resolution at Manchester Metropolis final season, and I really feel certain followers of different non-big 6 golf equipment might level to simply as many.
In conclusion, this week has been one thing of a tipping level for me after 55 years as a supporter. I can’t get enthusiastic about Villa signing Coutinho and Digne, and whoever else we’d usher in as a result of I’m now satisfied that we’ll by no means be allowed to get too near the established elite, at all times solely allowed to make up the numbers, that we’ll be put in our place if we get too uppity. I’m certain some folks will pooh-pooh this viewpoint however, you realize, if it walks like a duck and many others. The entire thing stinks.
Kevin (nonetheless raging at each the Ings selections)